built h22a?

Wideopentuning · 10-03-2006

There is not a set "You make XXX whp" that anyone can throw out. Will it help prevent detonation and allow you to run higher ignition advance..yes. You should gain some safety and possibly power installing the kit without tuning...but it sure won't be optimized. I would almost go as far as to say that tuning is almost more important on an NA motor to realize gains.

goslonomo · 10-04-2006

well yeah i was just wondering what anyone else got to make a rough estimate, do u see more with forced induction? and for sure tuning is #1 but the best guy around here is 300 bucks for a session. and i dont know if he has ever tuned methanol injection. speaking of methanol, where do i get it?

Rocket468 · 10-04-2006

We do have nozzles smaller than 3gph. Just not many cars need them any smaller. 3gph will be fine for you. Our caculator is for boosted cars, So just putting in 0 psi will cause it to be off.

We can make up N/a kits We been meaning to put one in the store along with diesel kits.

HP gains would be simlar to what you would get on 100 octane pump. It would allow for cooler IAT and for more timing with the high compression your running.

goslonomo · 10-04-2006

so not anywhere close to a 30hp gain, with out a tune. becuase me car is alraedy tuned to run on 91, andi throw in an octane boost with 91 or a couple gallons of 110. and i dont see much difference.

Wideopentuning · 10-04-2006

Have you tried advancing the timing while running the octance boost?

goslonomo · 10-09-2006

no i havent advanced the timing while my octane was boosted.

dvldoc · 10-11-2006

There is no harm a alcohol kit can do to your car, If your running 100% methanol it will just be like running race gas plus the lowered intake temps.

A M2 nozzle would work with your application you can use a Progressive Controller do distribute the spray and controll the pump pressure. I recommend the voltaged faced controller and use it with your stock 1 bar map sensor.

batter2424 · 01-13-2007

i was also looking into doing the same thing with my h22a lude and found no info for NA injection setups. but now that i know it can be i will because so many benifits and really no draw backs. from my research if you ran 93 octane gas and run a 50 50 mix is like have a 102 octane is that correct i know pure alcohol is 108. you guys sell the NA kit yet for sale i will buy one.

dvldoc · 01-14-2007

We do sell a N/A kit, I don't think the site has updated it yet but we do carry them with of course a superior vacuum switch over what our competitors us.

The best for you is just order the base kit and put in the comments section you want to replace the boost switch with a vacuum switch.

dvldoc · 01-14-2007

We do sell a N/A kit, I don't think the site has updated it yet but we do carry them with of course a superior vacuum switch over what our competitors us.

The best for you is just order the base kit and put in the comments section you want to replace the boost switch with a vacuum switch. Or you can use the progressive kit with the voltage faced controller and run the system off your Map sensor or TPS sensor.

10-04-2006	#12 (permalink)
goslonomo Water Injection Newb Year: 94 Make: honda Model: h22 civic ej1 Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 9	well yeah i was just wondering what anyone else got to make a rough estimate, do u see more with forced induction? and for sure tuning is #1 but the best guy around here is 300 bucks for a session. and i dont know if he has ever tuned methanol injection. speaking of methanol, where do i get it? Last edited by goslonomo; 10-04-2006 at 12:46 AM.

01-13-2007	#18 (permalink)
batter2424 Water Injection Newb Year: 1996 Make: honda Model: prelude Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 1	Re: built h22a? i was also looking into doing the same thing with my h22a lude and found no info for NA injection setups. but now that i know it can be i will because so many benifits and really no draw backs. from my research if you ran 93 octane gas and run a 50 50 mix is like have a 102 octane is that correct i know pure alcohol is 108. you guys sell the NA kit yet for sale i will buy one.

01-14-2007	#19 (permalink)
dvldoc DevilsOwn Staff Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 2,058	Re: built h22a? We do sell a N/A kit, I don't think the site has updated it yet but we do carry them with of course a superior vacuum switch over what our competitors us. The best for you is just order the base kit and put in the comments section you want to replace the boost switch with a vacuum switch.

01-14-2007	#20 (permalink)
dvldoc DevilsOwn Staff Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 2,058	Re: built h22a? We do sell a N/A kit, I don't think the site has updated it yet but we do carry them with of course a superior vacuum switch over what our competitors us. The best for you is just order the base kit and put in the comments section you want to replace the boost switch with a vacuum switch. Or you can use the progressive kit with the voltage faced controller and run the system off your Map sensor or TPS sensor.

10-03-2006	#11 (permalink)
Wideopentuning Approved Dealer Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 66	There is not a set "You make XXX whp" that anyone can throw out. Will it help prevent detonation and allow you to run higher ignition advance..yes. You should gain some safety and possibly power installing the kit without tuning...but it sure won't be optimized. I would almost go as far as to say that tuning is almost more important on an NA motor to realize gains.

10-04-2006	#13 (permalink)
Rocket468 DevilsOwn Staff Year: 2000 Make: Pontiac Model: Grand Prix Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 1,124	We do have nozzles smaller than 3gph. Just not many cars need them any smaller. 3gph will be fine for you. Our caculator is for boosted cars, So just putting in 0 psi will cause it to be off. We can make up N/a kits We been meaning to put one in the store along with diesel kits. HP gains would be simlar to what you would get on 100 octane pump. It would allow for cooler IAT and for more timing with the high compression your running.

10-04-2006	#14 (permalink)
goslonomo Water Injection Newb Year: 94 Make: honda Model: h22 civic ej1 Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 9	so not anywhere close to a 30hp gain, with out a tune. becuase me car is alraedy tuned to run on 91, andi throw in an octane boost with 91 or a couple gallons of 110. and i dont see much difference.

10-04-2006	#15 (permalink)
Wideopentuning Approved Dealer Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 66	Have you tried advancing the timing while running the octance boost?

10-09-2006	#16 (permalink)
goslonomo Water Injection Newb Year: 94 Make: honda Model: h22 civic ej1 Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 9	no i havent advanced the timing while my octane was boosted.

10-11-2006	#17 (permalink)
dvldoc DevilsOwn Staff Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 2,058	There is no harm a alcohol kit can do to your car, If your running 100% methanol it will just be like running race gas plus the lowered intake temps. A M2 nozzle would work with your application you can use a Progressive Controller do distribute the spray and controll the pump pressure. I recommend the voltaged faced controller and use it with your stock 1 bar map sensor.