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Old 05-04-2006   #1 (permalink)
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Who know anyhting about how to put on of these kits onto a motor that is not turbo or super charged in order to stop detonation at certain throatle or MAP / MAF temperatures. I really would like to try this especially in todays world of half ass low octane fuel that cost $3.39 a gallon with a vehicle that requires at least 93 octane. Please advise ASAP

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We have many customers that use this on non forced induction application just for that very reason. For example LS1 motors with raised compression who don' t want to run race gase all the time and get knock with the new compression ratio.

Our Progressive Controller will work off of any TPS sensor or non GM MAF sensor you can also use a standard MAP sensor the tables on the face plate will not be used. You will use the activation lights to see where to set your setting. Of course if you have the 5v reference scale to the sensor you want to use then it's just a simple conversion over to 3 bar voltage.

Even running -20 washer fluid will give you a octane over 100. The walmart brand is 40% methanol. The almost 150 degree intake temps drop helps out alot as well.

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So which one of your systems would you suggest. This is going to be used on a I-6 258 cu in port injection motor. Please site URL and part number. Thanks
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http://www.devilsownonline.com/unive...-kit-p-12.html

The above is the progressive kit which will work off of your MAF sensor (not GM) MAP or TPS sensor.

You don't need much so a M3 nozzle will be what you would select.

Or you can get the non progressive kit and request a Vacuum switch by using the contact inquiry on the store front page. We don't normally carry them but we can get you one for around $15 over the price of a regular base kit. The switch is adjustible from 30in of vac to 1.5in of vac
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hello, I am looking for any information there may be about using Butanol alcohol as a fuel in a vintage drag bike, (cb500) non-turbo (for now) thanks a lot!
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artistonabike, Sorry I don't much about butanol. I dont' know anyone to ask either. Sorry
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Hey Guys !! Chance''what's New With Non Aspirated Car Guys ??? Sold The Gn And Bought A Supercharged Tpi Vette.; Used The Same Kit But Changed The Nozzels You Gave Me..thanks!!worked Great! Bilal Still There?? Trying To Help Hookup Some Of The Na Cars...... 93 4.9 Caddy ? 94 Chevy Pickup , 85 Porsche And A Couple Of Other Tow Vehicles.. What Ya Got?? Thanks Again! Tony
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Dang you sold the GN well i guess you wanted to try something a bit different. Post up some pics of the new ride Tony.

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What kit would I use for a non forced induction car, just running a normal carb car...but it a built 347 stroker, took her to the track she ran 11.30 @ 117 but think it has more in it..

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What kit would I use for a non forced induction car, just running a normal carb car...but it a built 347 stroker, took her to the track she ran 11.30 @ 117 but think it has more in it..

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The universal stage 1 kit with a voltage faced controller with a DO4 or DO5 nozzle should do the trick for you to give you some extra power along with increasing your timing the extra octane and reduced intake temps should make for a few tenths extra in the 1/4.

You would just need to get a GM 1 bar map sensor to make it work, they are dirt cheap on ebay, we only carry 2bar and 3bar. But we do have the map sensor connectors in case you need one.

The controller has a 5v output wire so it can power and read the MAP sensor independent of the vehicle. All you need to do is hook up a vacuum line to it.

I would run 100% to 75% methanol in it.

Our new nozzles make it easy to tap a carb spacer to mount them or a intake manifold.
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