Front mount intercooler or no?

ericp501 · 03-20-2007

Is there really a point to getting a front mount intercooler if i'm just going to do water/meth injection? I mean the intercooler just cools the air and the water/meth injection cools it 10 times more then any intercooler ever could.. so is it even worth it? and sometimes a bigger intercooler drops psi

Dust · 03-20-2007

Does the car already have a SMIC?

bruce-m · 03-20-2007

on the skylines in the uk we find that the basic GTS-t model(255bhp) with a front mount ic,exhaust, induction kit and a re-mapped ecu will get about 312bhp.

But a customer of mine with a devils kit, exhaust, induction kit with a re-mapped ecu while still using the standard tiny side mount ic made 315bhp.

ericp501 · 03-20-2007

Yes i have a SMIC.. I have a 99.5 audi A4 1.8T quat. It has a K04 turbo upgrade, borla exhaust, and a chip.. I'm not totally sure who the chip is by but I know the pre-owner had alot of work done at AWE so i'm pretty sure its a GIAC (i think thats what its called) my only other upgrade plan would be a high flow cat.

Dust · 03-21-2007

I would use the AI for WTO knock and temp suppression, and allow the stock SMIC for everything else. Might even look into opening up some vents around the SMIC and then maybe spraying some alcohol on it.

bruce-m · 03-21-2007

High flow cat and a 3" downpipe would be a good upgrade if it hasnt already got one.

VR6T · 03-29-2007

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Originally Posted by bruce-m

High flow cat and a 3" downpipe would be a good upgrade if it hasnt already got one.

Dude the 3" on the 1.8t's is a must! I'm running a VR6 with a t3/t4 on stock compression and 10 psi. I get 0 knock and 0 timing retard....I'm running a 5gph nozzle too.

BadAndy · 04-03-2007

right but if you have a intercooler and then run denatured alcohol i think you will really like that. also if you have any other VW question i have somefriends with a Mk III jetta vr6 turbo pushing way over 300 to the wheels chekc him out they are on a site called DSD or downsouthdubs.com

vtec-this · 05-14-2007

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Dude the 3" on the 1.8t's is a must! I'm running a VR6 with a t3/t4 on stock compression and 10 psi. I get 0 knock and 0 timing retard....I'm running a 5gph nozzle too.

what kind of a/f's are you getting at WOT? What is your base fuel octane 93? what kind of mix are you running? So you do or dont have an intercooler? the temps from a T3/T4 is going to be hella lower then from a K series as well as less backpressure which means lower egts. sounds like you have a nice setup

ericp501 · 05-14-2007

I was thinkin about a test pipe but I just hate the way they sound with a borla.. Too much like a ricer! Yes I use 93 oct, and I have a side mount intercooler.. Its nothing great and if anyone has an audi they know the side mount hardly gets any airflow at all.. Now I could do a custom FMIC for no more then $150 but for $50 more I can get alc injection.. So I'm just trying to figure it out.

03-20-2007	#1 (permalink)
ericp501 Water Injection Newb Year: 99.5 Make: Audi Model: A4 Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 9	Front mount intercooler or no? Is there really a point to getting a front mount intercooler if i'm just going to do water/meth injection? I mean the intercooler just cools the air and the water/meth injection cools it 10 times more then any intercooler ever could.. so is it even worth it? and sometimes a bigger intercooler drops psi

03-20-2007	#2 (permalink)
Dust Alcohol Holic Year: 1999 Make: Daihatsu Model: Move Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 295	Re: Front mount intercooler or no? Does the car already have a SMIC?

03-20-2007	#3 (permalink)
bruce-m Approved Dealer Year: 1995 Make: Nissan Model: skyline Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 83	Re: Front mount intercooler or no? on the skylines in the uk we find that the basic GTS-t model(255bhp) with a front mount ic,exhaust, induction kit and a re-mapped ecu will get about 312bhp. But a customer of mine with a devils kit, exhaust, induction kit with a re-mapped ecu while still using the standard tiny side mount ic made 315bhp.

03-20-2007	#4 (permalink)
ericp501 Water Injection Newb Year: 99.5 Make: Audi Model: A4 Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 9	Re: Front mount intercooler or no? Yes i have a SMIC.. I have a 99.5 audi A4 1.8T quat. It has a K04 turbo upgrade, borla exhaust, and a chip.. I'm not totally sure who the chip is by but I know the pre-owner had alot of work done at AWE so i'm pretty sure its a GIAC (i think thats what its called) my only other upgrade plan would be a high flow cat.

03-21-2007	#5 (permalink)
Dust Alcohol Holic Year: 1999 Make: Daihatsu Model: Move Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 295	Re: Front mount intercooler or no? I would use the AI for WTO knock and temp suppression, and allow the stock SMIC for everything else. Might even look into opening up some vents around the SMIC and then maybe spraying some alcohol on it.

03-21-2007	#6 (permalink)
bruce-m Approved Dealer Year: 1995 Make: Nissan Model: skyline Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 83	Re: Front mount intercooler or no? High flow cat and a 3" downpipe would be a good upgrade if it hasnt already got one.

04-03-2007	#8 (permalink)
BadAndy Alcohol Injection Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 42	Re: Front mount intercooler or no? right but if you have a intercooler and then run denatured alcohol i think you will really like that. also if you have any other VW question i have somefriends with a Mk III jetta vr6 turbo pushing way over 300 to the wheels chekc him out they are on a site called DSD or downsouthdubs.com

05-14-2007	#10 (permalink)
ericp501 Water Injection Newb Year: 99.5 Make: Audi Model: A4 Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 9	Re: Front mount intercooler or no? I was thinkin about a test pipe but I just hate the way they sound with a borla.. Too much like a ricer! Yes I use 93 oct, and I have a side mount intercooler.. Its nothing great and if anyone has an audi they know the side mount hardly gets any airflow at all.. Now I could do a custom FMIC for no more then $150 but for $50 more I can get alc injection.. So I'm just trying to figure it out.