I need more fueling with alcohol-help.

turbovanman · 08-26-2006

Tonight at the track, running 94 octane in my turbo caravan, your kit, M3 nozzle and 25-35 psi of boost. I am using a product called Boost Juice as I was in a hurry and couldn't find pure methanol. It doesn't give a ratio but I would assume its 50/50. I was fine at 25 psi, no detonation but 30-35, ping city, I need more fuel so what will get me there or do I need to run the M5 nozzle?

turbovanman · 08-28-2006

Bueller, anyone?

Rocket468 · 08-28-2006

Boost juice is 50/50 mix.

Yea, a larger nozzle will gt you more fuel. Also running more meth to water will get you more octane. Might also try having the full come in alittle lower.

turbovanman · 08-29-2006

Ok, I will try more meth. I have it come on at 8 psi and full on at 12 psi.

dvldoc · 08-29-2006

With that much boost I would step up to the M5 Nozzle.

turbovanman · 08-31-2006

Hmmmmmmmm, even though in the other post you said use the M3 nozzle. I will try pure meth and see what happens. If that doesn't work, then the M5 it is. BTW, I love this kit, its so easy to use and I can run 87 octane gas now at 25 psi on the street, insane, :cool:

drmatera · 09-18-2006

is it true your meth should account for 20% of your fueling need? (rough estimate i'm sure). I've always wondered how people figure out which nozzle is best for their set-up. I run an M15 on my 5.0 turbo set-up and it seems to be perfect at the 15psi level (non intercooled). The car makes just over 500rwhp at 15psi, 30% meth and 93 gas. Been thinking about adding a second nozzle (M5) to see if it will bog or boogie.

dvldoc · 09-18-2006

Theres alot of factors with nozzle size, other than motor size and boost, Injector size, IC or no IC, Turbo or supercharged ect, ect, ect. We've been doing it long enough to get it right about 95%. Give us your specs and will tally it up. Chance actually has a nozzle size program to do this.

drmatera · 09-19-2006

basically for an alcohol kit i'm running a Ford Windstar (flex fuel) intank fuel pump and an M15 nozzle. My flowing pressure is 65psi through the nozzle. Stock 5.0 with decked and ported heads (roughly 9.5:1 comp). Master Power T70, no intercooler, 42# injectors and a 255 intank fuel pump. At 15psi on 93 fuel and the -20 Advance auto w/w fluid and 21* total timing it made 511 rwhp @ 5200rpm / 552 rwtq @ 4400rpm. Not sure what other info you need.

Rocket468 · 09-19-2006

drmatera, with the pressure you have your going to need more nozzle. With our kits 17gph of nozzle. our kits with this much nozzle will be around 150psi @1.0gpm body pump. You have about 1/2 the pressure so you will need more nozzle to comp sate for that. It takes 4 times the pressure to double the flow. I think a good base would be another 10gph nozzle.

08-26-2006	#1 (permalink)
turbovanman Water Injection Newb Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 14	I need more fueling with alky-help. Tonight at the track, running 94 octane in my turbo caravan, your kit, M3 nozzle and 25-35 psi of boost. I am using a product called Boost Juice as I was in a hurry and couldn't find pure methanol. It doesn't give a ratio but I would assume its 50/50. I was fine at 25 psi, no detonation but 30-35, ping city, I need more fuel so what will get me there or do I need to run the M5 nozzle? __________________ 1989 Turbo Caravan, 13.4@98mph-12's are so close I can feel it. Last edited by turbovanman; 08-26-2006 at 02:12 PM.

08-28-2006	#2 (permalink)
turbovanman Water Injection Newb Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 14	Bueller, anyone? __________________ 1989 Turbo Caravan, 13.4@98mph-12's are so close I can feel it.

08-29-2006	#4 (permalink)
turbovanman Water Injection Newb Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 14	Ok, I will try more meth. I have it come on at 8 psi and full on at 12 psi. __________________ 1989 Turbo Caravan, 13.4@98mph-12's are so close I can feel it.

08-31-2006	#6 (permalink)
turbovanman Water Injection Newb Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 14	Hmmmmmmmm, even though in the other post you said use the M3 nozzle. I will try pure meth and see what happens. If that doesn't work, then the M5 it is. BTW, I love this kit, its so easy to use and I can run 87 octane gas now at 25 psi on the street, insane, :cool: __________________ 1989 Turbo Caravan, 13.4@98mph-12's are so close I can feel it.

09-19-2006	#9 (permalink)
drmatera Water Injection Newb Year: 1991 Make: Ford Model: Mustang 5.0 Turbo Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 13	basically for an alcohol kit i'm running a Ford Windstar (flex fuel) intank fuel pump and an M15 nozzle. My flowing pressure is 65psi through the nozzle. Stock 5.0 with decked and ported heads (roughly 9.5:1 comp). Master Power T70, no intercooler, 42# injectors and a 255 intank fuel pump. At 15psi on 93 fuel and the -20 Advance auto w/w fluid and 21* total timing it made 511 rwhp @ 5200rpm / 552 rwtq @ 4400rpm. Not sure what other info you need. __________________ 1991 mustang coupe - T70 turbo - DIY meth 10.45 @ 134mph , 22psi boost , pump gas Megasquirt1

08-28-2006	#3 (permalink)
Rocket468 DevilsOwn Staff Year: 2000 Make: Pontiac Model: Grand Prix Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 1,073	Boost juice is 50/50 mix. Yea, a larger nozzle will gt you more fuel. Also running more meth to water will get you more octane. Might also try having the full come in alittle lower.

08-29-2006	#5 (permalink)
dvldoc DevilsOwn Staff Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 1,884	With that much boost I would step up to the M5 Nozzle.

09-18-2006	#7 (permalink)
drmatera Water Injection Newb Year: 1991 Make: Ford Model: Mustang 5.0 Turbo Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 13	is it true your meth should account for 20% of your fueling need? (rough estimate i'm sure). I've always wondered how people figure out which nozzle is best for their set-up. I run an M15 on my 5.0 turbo set-up and it seems to be perfect at the 15psi level (non intercooled). The car makes just over 500rwhp at 15psi, 30% meth and 93 gas. Been thinking about adding a second nozzle (M5) to see if it will bog or boogie.

09-18-2006	#8 (permalink)
dvldoc DevilsOwn Staff Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 1,884	Theres alot of factors with nozzle size, other than motor size and boost, Injector size, IC or no IC, Turbo or supercharged ect, ect, ect. We've been doing it long enough to get it right about 95%. Give us your specs and will tally it up. Chance actually has a nozzle size program to do this.

09-19-2006	#10 (permalink)
Rocket468 DevilsOwn Staff Year: 2000 Make: Pontiac Model: Grand Prix Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 1,073	drmatera, with the pressure you have your going to need more nozzle. With our kits 17gph of nozzle. our kits with this much nozzle will be around 150psi @1.0gpm body pump. You have about 1/2 the pressure so you will need more nozzle to comp sate for that. It takes 4 times the pressure to double the flow. I think a good base would be another 10gph nozzle.